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Since this season started, I've been really into LOST, watching 2 hours a week: the new episode, and the previous week's episode enhanced w/ the ticker the hour before. I've taken notes during the episodes so I'd know what interesting thoughts to post about. I've thought, often wrongly, about who the Oceanic 6 are, who's going to die, and other interesting points. Its been a great season.
So I guess I shouldn't be surprised that eventually an episode came that didn't live up to the standard that was set. Tonight's episode was that episode. I mean, it was fine, not horrible or anything, but I didn't feel like I got any big reveals, any ah-ha moments, or anything that really got me excited. All in all I was dissapointed by the episode (not to mention my frustration that there wasn't an enhansed episode on before it).
I don't feel like I have much to say. I think it's silly that Mr. Friendly is gay. I didn't need to know and would rather not have known. Michael feels bad, yet still continues in his bad decisions. There was no suspence about him hitting the "Execute" button, because we know the boat and Michael make it. The only thing that is even a little worth discussing are who shot Karl and Ruseau. I think it's the rest of The Others; I think they're near enough to the temple (which, by the way, is a Dahrma station, not an actual temple) that its being guarded. Of course I could be wrong, as I often am about things.
Overall, largely dissapointed tonight.
Thursday, March 20, 2008
Thursday, March 13, 2008
Episode 407
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Ok, is it just me, or have nearly all the episodes this season had all the really good stuff happen in the last 1/4 of the episode? It really seems like the first half, at least, of the show isn't any thing special, then all of a sudden things come together at the end. Anyway, here's the thoughts for tonight's episode:
- Sun & Jin the final part of the Oceanic 6. I totally called it! I have to give credit to Joia, since we sorta' came to the conclusion together...ok, so it was really all Joia, I just agreed, but whatever.
- Although I have to say, its possible Jin isn't actually one of the Oceanic 6, since everyone thinks he's dead, in which case we're still waiting on one more. And the more I think about it, the more likely this seems...
- What's w/ Juliet telling Jin about Sun's affair? Did she think it'd earn her some trust points? Definatly not the strategy I'd've taken. Seems as though the years of being an Other has influenced her.
- So did you notice? Right after the scene on the fishing canoe w/ Jin and Bernard, when they were talking about karma, you see the Ship and it's name. I didn't get it exactly, but its something like: KAHAMA. Whatever it is is really close to Karma. And since the show is LOST, its not a coincidence.
- So apparently, acording to the captian (who can't be trusted), Ben is the one who staged the fake crash of Oceanic 815. That's crazy. He really must have the "magic box" to get whatever he wants. Creepy...
- Ok, I have to say, though that I DID totally call it on Michael! After last week when Ben to Locke that he'd have to sit down to find out who his man was on the boat, I knew it was Michael. Interesting that he's under an assumed name, and that he's working for Ben. That means Ben's been in contact w/ him somehow and that Michael has agreed to work for him. What sort of masterminded manipulation has Ben done now? Is it something with Walt?
- It seems that Jin is in hiding, and possibly in China or something, but I'm not sure about that. He claims to only have been married for 2 months, so we know its not Sun he's talking about. So I wonder now if its actually BEN who gets everyone off the island instead of the ship. Ben's the one in control, as usual. Just like he's controling Sayid, he must be manipulating Jin to not let Sun know he's alive. And that circles back to my first point about Jin not actually being one of the Oceanic 6, since Sun thinks he's dead. Unless there was a staged death after they got back...oh the complex possibilities!
Ok, is it just me, or have nearly all the episodes this season had all the really good stuff happen in the last 1/4 of the episode? It really seems like the first half, at least, of the show isn't any thing special, then all of a sudden things come together at the end. Anyway, here's the thoughts for tonight's episode:
- Sun & Jin the final part of the Oceanic 6. I totally called it! I have to give credit to Joia, since we sorta' came to the conclusion together...ok, so it was really all Joia, I just agreed, but whatever.
- Although I have to say, its possible Jin isn't actually one of the Oceanic 6, since everyone thinks he's dead, in which case we're still waiting on one more. And the more I think about it, the more likely this seems...
- What's w/ Juliet telling Jin about Sun's affair? Did she think it'd earn her some trust points? Definatly not the strategy I'd've taken. Seems as though the years of being an Other has influenced her.
- So did you notice? Right after the scene on the fishing canoe w/ Jin and Bernard, when they were talking about karma, you see the Ship and it's name. I didn't get it exactly, but its something like: KAHAMA. Whatever it is is really close to Karma. And since the show is LOST, its not a coincidence.
- So apparently, acording to the captian (who can't be trusted), Ben is the one who staged the fake crash of Oceanic 815. That's crazy. He really must have the "magic box" to get whatever he wants. Creepy...
- Ok, I have to say, though that I DID totally call it on Michael! After last week when Ben to Locke that he'd have to sit down to find out who his man was on the boat, I knew it was Michael. Interesting that he's under an assumed name, and that he's working for Ben. That means Ben's been in contact w/ him somehow and that Michael has agreed to work for him. What sort of masterminded manipulation has Ben done now? Is it something with Walt?
- It seems that Jin is in hiding, and possibly in China or something, but I'm not sure about that. He claims to only have been married for 2 months, so we know its not Sun he's talking about. So I wonder now if its actually BEN who gets everyone off the island instead of the ship. Ben's the one in control, as usual. Just like he's controling Sayid, he must be manipulating Jin to not let Sun know he's alive. And that circles back to my first point about Jin not actually being one of the Oceanic 6, since Sun thinks he's dead. Unless there was a staged death after they got back...oh the complex possibilities!
Thursday, March 6, 2008
Episode 406
Discussion of this post, as always, available on http://groups.google.com/group/lost-book-club.
Oh, and FYI: I've added a few new things from last weeks episode based on the enhansed version shown tonight. Check those out at the google group linked to above.
- So what's the deal w/ the whispers? Those have been around since the beginning of the show, all the way back to Season 1 when Ruseau talks about being able to hear them in the jungle. Based on what happened in tonight's episode, I wonder if its somehow connected to a teleportation device. Maybe something related both to the rabbits in the unaired DHARMA training video (available on youtube and the LOST website) and the Polar Bear located in Tunisai, Africa in the beginning of this season. Who knows, just a guess
- So it seems that we've now identified the two main power players in the season: Ben and Widmore. I don't really know who to root for. I don't like Ben; he's manipulative, posessive, power-hungry, and arrogant. Yet Widmore is selfish and down right mean. It wouldn't surprise me if in the next few episodes they try to make Ben a bit more sympathetic, but right now I'm not buying it
- Juliet references "Jack & Emma" who seem to be kids. My guess is those are the kids from the plane that the Others kidnaped, but I honnestly don't remember. Does it seem weird to anyone else that they take these kids and then the perspective of Ben is that eventually they'll just "stop asking" about their parents?!
- So is it now official that Jack's w/ Juliet and Kate's w/ Sawyer? The kiss from Jack sure seemed to make it seem like that, but then agian, in the flash forwards we've seen Jack and Kate, and Jack says he still loves her. So, does something happen to Juliet (like she dies) or does she just stay on the island?
- That reminds me of something from the beginning of the episode that I thought was really cleaver. The whole opening scene w/ Juliet and Harper where you don't really know if she's one of the Oceanic 6 or not...they play it up as if she is, but then she's not. While, yes, its sorta' predictable, you have to be honnest and admit that you can't really KNOW which way its going to go because the LOST writers don't follow a formula.
- Oh, did I mention that I don't like Ben? He thinks Juliet is HIS? Does that not bother anyone else?
- The other thing that bothers me a bit in this episode is that, like the title, Juliet is the "other woman." On the one hand, there are consequences to this that she has to live with, but on the other hand, she's chapioned as the heroine (please tell me there's just the one spelling and that I didn't just make a big mistake), even though she's in the wrong. Seems to tipify the moral relativism that is common in our culture. Her wrong isn't as bad as that of Ben's, so its not that big a deal. Also, Harper is a jerk, so that justifies Juliet's actions...I'm just not ok w/ that.
- End credits, the notice said that next week we learn the "last of the Oceanic 6". I don't know if that means there are 5 we should know now, or if we get to know the last 2 next week. I'm going to assume the latter, since I don't count Ben or Aaron, for several reasons, including info gleaned from the Podcasts I've listened to recently. : )
Sad thing is that we only have 4 more episodes before the end of the season, but I plan to enjoy every one of them!
Oh, and FYI: I've added a few new things from last weeks episode based on the enhansed version shown tonight. Check those out at the google group linked to above.
- So what's the deal w/ the whispers? Those have been around since the beginning of the show, all the way back to Season 1 when Ruseau talks about being able to hear them in the jungle. Based on what happened in tonight's episode, I wonder if its somehow connected to a teleportation device. Maybe something related both to the rabbits in the unaired DHARMA training video (available on youtube and the LOST website) and the Polar Bear located in Tunisai, Africa in the beginning of this season. Who knows, just a guess
- So it seems that we've now identified the two main power players in the season: Ben and Widmore. I don't really know who to root for. I don't like Ben; he's manipulative, posessive, power-hungry, and arrogant. Yet Widmore is selfish and down right mean. It wouldn't surprise me if in the next few episodes they try to make Ben a bit more sympathetic, but right now I'm not buying it
- Juliet references "Jack & Emma" who seem to be kids. My guess is those are the kids from the plane that the Others kidnaped, but I honnestly don't remember. Does it seem weird to anyone else that they take these kids and then the perspective of Ben is that eventually they'll just "stop asking" about their parents?!
- So is it now official that Jack's w/ Juliet and Kate's w/ Sawyer? The kiss from Jack sure seemed to make it seem like that, but then agian, in the flash forwards we've seen Jack and Kate, and Jack says he still loves her. So, does something happen to Juliet (like she dies) or does she just stay on the island?
- That reminds me of something from the beginning of the episode that I thought was really cleaver. The whole opening scene w/ Juliet and Harper where you don't really know if she's one of the Oceanic 6 or not...they play it up as if she is, but then she's not. While, yes, its sorta' predictable, you have to be honnest and admit that you can't really KNOW which way its going to go because the LOST writers don't follow a formula.
- Oh, did I mention that I don't like Ben? He thinks Juliet is HIS? Does that not bother anyone else?
- The other thing that bothers me a bit in this episode is that, like the title, Juliet is the "other woman." On the one hand, there are consequences to this that she has to live with, but on the other hand, she's chapioned as the heroine (please tell me there's just the one spelling and that I didn't just make a big mistake), even though she's in the wrong. Seems to tipify the moral relativism that is common in our culture. Her wrong isn't as bad as that of Ben's, so its not that big a deal. Also, Harper is a jerk, so that justifies Juliet's actions...I'm just not ok w/ that.
- End credits, the notice said that next week we learn the "last of the Oceanic 6". I don't know if that means there are 5 we should know now, or if we get to know the last 2 next week. I'm going to assume the latter, since I don't count Ben or Aaron, for several reasons, including info gleaned from the Podcasts I've listened to recently. : )
Sad thing is that we only have 4 more episodes before the end of the season, but I plan to enjoy every one of them!
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